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Jan 25, 2016

Mike Shares his thoughts on the question of whether or not to hire from within or outside your cleaning company


BONUS INFO: There are actually a couple exceptions to the rule read on to discover.

Core Values are the essential to your company and how to integrate them into your hiring process ESPECIALLY when it comes to hiring supervisors and managers. 

Not only it is important that all the front line employees share your core values, but It is CRITICAL that all your supervisors share your core values as well.

BONUS LOVIN: Systems are crucial to getting the right people on your team

Here are some truth bombs on how to promote from within and why you should NOT hire for skill!!

Here is a quick overview of this episode:

  • Your best supervisors aren't necessarily going to be from your best employees
  • Hire for attitude, shared core values and the right energy 

Just when you think you've heard everything there is to hear, Mike dives into the magic of systems and how an average person with a strong set of systems behind them can be very successful. 

Adding daily Checklists to your cleaning company hiring, can allow crucial information to flow from front line employees to supervisors to you as the owner.  

BONUS LOVIN: Checklists can be used when it comes time to fire, give pay raises or promote

Here are a few more pieces of wisdom:

  • Give 10 compliments and encouragements before you give a correction (HINT: This works in your personal life as well)
  • When you do give corrections- only give one at a time
  • How and when to do employee reviews

If you don’t use the checklists your create, your supervisors definitely aren’t and your employees don't stand a chance at using them. 

Remember, your best supervisors are only going to do 80% of what you do and the employees under them are only going to do 80% of what the supervisor does- you must always be the shining example!

Lightning Round Genius:

  • Long term planning is most important
  • Don't wait until you’ve sold your company to have that long term mindset 
  • Honesty, integrity & follow up 
  • Do what you say you are going to do

RESOURCE ALERT- The Peter Principle by Laurence J. Peter and Raymond Hull

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Jan 22, 2016

Today we discuss janitorial hiring on the Grow My Cleaning Company Podcast with Cathy Patterson from Allied Cleaning Service. After we get to know Cathy a little, we talk about janitorial hiring, firing and everything in between.


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Have you ever dealt with the last minute no show, or even worse, the dreaded “no call, no show” cleaning employee? Of course you have- well today is your lucky day as we dive in and talk about how to deal with that exact problem. Listen in and discover:


  • Why you have to set the stage from the start
  • Why trying to deal with the problem when they call in is already way too late
  • How advertising affects no show rate
  • Why your Core Values have EVERYTHING to do with employees showing up
  • The difference between trying to change your employees and building on what they already have
  • How just giving employees money ISN’T enough anymore
  • Why consistency is key
  • Just how important/ difficult employee hiring and turnover is in the cleaning industry


We talk about communicating a zero tolerance policy on no call, no show right from the beginning- advertising for help all the way through terminating an employee. We also go over how handling a single no call no show wrong can pollute your entire team.


BONUS: Interviewing employees is a PROCESS, not an event


It can be tempting to look the other way or “deal with it later” when an employee misses a shift, but that screams chaos and lack of leadership to the entire team and bad habits spread like a cancer. Handle this wrong and you will soon find the inmates running the asylum!


SUM IT UP: You must have a ZERO tolerance policy- No call, no show- NO JOB!!

Before the party ends, Mike shares in hundreds of employees over a couple of decades, he has NEVER fired someone and thought “I should have waited” and in almost every case he immediately knew he should have done it sooner. Hire SLOW and fire QUICKLY. You can’t wait when it comes to firing problem employees. The time between when you know in your head and heart they have to go and when you actually part ways is some of the most expensive time you will have in your cleaning company.


Cathy shares some of her experience in the Lightening Round


  • Never cheat, never take shortcuts and always deliver on time
  • Never hire employees without a background check
  • Stay on top of things, check on your people, make sure your work is complete
  • Go above and beyond always


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Jan 20, 2016

Today you can listen and learn as Mike talks with Thabs Lekota and Tamara Roberts from Maid on the Move all the way from South Africa about pricing cleaning jobs.


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The key to pricing cleaning jobs and getting out of the low bid rat race is to stop competing with every other cleaning company for a very small amount of bidders. Even better- discover how to the be ONLY bidder in the conversation. When there’s too much competition your prospects are almost always going to go for the lowest price. Combat this by communicating with prospects before they start asking for bids and educating prospects on how your services solve their specific pain.


BONUS- If you aren’t the cheapest you might as well be the most expensive


When pricing cleaning jobs, you must leave yourself enough margin to educate your prospects on your value instead of just trying to be the cheapest.

Mike drops a bunch of wisdom including:


  • Using a USP
  • Finding specific customers with specific pain that you can fix
  • How to get the conversation focus off price and onto value
  • All leads/ customers are NOT created equal
  • If you don’t have a relationship they are going to go with the cheapest vendor
  • It is easy to price properly when you have enough bids
  • Don't do small frequent price raises - raise prices less often by bigger margins


Thabs and Tamara share some good stuff in the lightening round including:


  • Don’t be afraid to approach your clients, do what you have to do
  • You can’t run your business from a fear based position
  • Make sure you invest in marketing


If you like numbers, check out this podcast:


To get the full scoop on accounting, CPA’s and bookkeeping for your cleaning company!


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Jan 18, 2016

Today Mike talks with Jolene Vossen from Clean 4 You in Wichita Kansas. You can find out more about Jolene and her team at:


Mike coaches Jolene on the super important topic of how to handle accounting for your cleaning company, the differences between accountants and  bookkeepers and when to hire who.


The foundation of this episode is the understanding that you MUST know your numbers to be able to run your cleaning company and you must track well before you can know those numbers.


The three main things that need to happen in your cleaning business are:


  • Tracking info
  • Reporting info
  • Making good data based decisions with that info
  • And our least favorite… figuring out and paying the right amount of taxes


Jan 15, 2016

Cleaning Company Hiring

Cleaning company hiring can be a challenge . In a business with a higher than average employee turnover, knowing how to find and keep the best employees is crucial.

  If you want to grow your cleaning business and have employees that you LOVE, you are in the right place! Listen in as Mike Campion from Grow My Cleaning Company chats with Marsha Hays from Clear View Janitorial:

and discover how she grew from her husband running a small window cleaning to a fully diversified janitorial, duct, carpets and more cleaning company with 14 employees. 

Marsha realized that her cleaning company hiring and employee turnover is one of the biggest costs to her company and called Mike for help. We figure out:

  • How can you legally ask employees if they are physically able to do the work?
  • How to make sure the people you hire are the best for your company?
  • It is possible to stemm high employee turnover?

We all know that employee turnover is difficult in business, but it can go to a whole new level of awful in the cleaning business!  Listen in and find out how to improve your cleaning company hiring and cut that employee turnover drastically. 

Enjoy Mike rocking topics like:

  • Where to find your BEST employee prospects
  • The cheapest easiest ways to find the GOOD employees
  • Company culture and Core Values
  • How being clear with your Core Values can make your employees love you and your life happy
  • Why the hiring ads you are writing now probably don’t work and what to do about it

The key to the whole operation is KNOWING what your ideal employee looks like and what type of employee’s typically DON’T work out. When you know where your good employees hang out, you can advertise in the RIGHT place, with the RIGHT message to only the BEST people!

BONUS: Rookie cleaners use but when you start hiring more and more, you are going to want to use something like

How different do you think your message will be if you are looking for a hispanic single mom vs. a caucasian college student? Do you think they will look for jobs in different places?

We also talk about best practices in the hiring process and how you can benefit from the Three By Three rule of hiring and how to “try before you buy” when it comes to employees. To unlock success in your cleaning business, when it comes to employees- HAVE A SYSTEM!

If you want MORE genius on employee hiring, check out this deep dive blog:

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Jan 13, 2016

Today we talk with John Griffin from Basic Green Cleaning Service about how to make a cleaning business plan. John started his company out of desperation in a down economy when he couldn't even get a job bussing tables. Not only that, John fell ill and had to take 3 years off from his business but has come back stronger than ever ready for a cleaning business plan.


When John came back from his illness he saw more clearly than ever the need for systems and ways to get more customers for his cleaning company. If you want a full break down of how to get customers for your janitorial or maid service check out this free resource:


John talks about constantly learning, growing and investing in himself, (a key trait almost all business owners share) and how he uses books to learn from people that have gotten the results he wants to get and reveals a gem of a book- The  E-Myth by Michael Gerber. Get your copy here:

that brings us to what it looks like to run your business like you are going to sell it and how to keep in mind that every day you run your business YOU are the one buying it- you might as well invest in something that runs well and makes a bunch of money!


Discover how systems can allow average people to perform far above average and flat out get rid of bad employees. This creates a whole new level of freedom for YOU the owner of your cleaning business.


Mike also shares the two HUGE secrets that allowed him to sell his last two businesses for 7 figures each along with the difference between working in your business and working ON your business. As well as the importance of recognizing when you are doing ten dollar per hour tasks, one hundred dollar per hour tasks and one thousand dollar per hour tasks as well as how crazy it is to think that you can consistently do ten to twenty dollar per hour tasks and somehow make a hundred thousand dollars per year!


Before you get too bummed out, Mike shares how to win back those wasted ten dollar hours (like cleaning and paying bills) and turn them into hundred or thousand dollar hours.


You will also hear how important a cleaning business plan is to identify when you are working on the important but not urgent, urgent but not important and your worst enemy- not urgent and not important. This leads to the concept of budgeting your time just like you budget your money and a reminder that you can always make more money, but once you spend your time, it is spent forever.


Remember, your job as the owner is to cast a vision, build systems and make sure the company is creating the result in your life, your customer’s lives and your employees lives- not to be cleaning toilets!


Mike encourages John that systems take time and they aren’t going to be perfect right off the bat. Listen in and discover how to create a cleaning business plan for the THREE main areas that EVERY business has and how to start with the low hanging fruit. Things that you can change with the least amount of time and headache that will get you the MOST results.


Just when you think you have gotten all the cleaning business lovin there is to get, Mike jumps into how to create a system for making systems! How to identify the problem, get employees on board, implement and continue to revise and test until your company is running like a top!


After that you get a freebee on the best way for an employee to learn anything and how to set your employees up for success.


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so you don’t miss a thing!

Finally, the home of all things great is where Mike brings ALL of the cleaning company growth secrets and shortcuts

Jan 11, 2016

Cleaning advertising ideas from Mike Campion to a 20 year veteran cleaning company owner.

Alfred Oliveras from Northwest Janitorial talk cleaning advertising ideas and share the ups and downs of 20 years of experience running a cleaning business...

  • Grow your cleaning business without a bunch of money
  • Grow your cleaning business with NO money
  • Exactly how to figure a marketing and advertising budget for your cleaning company

If you are like many of the business owners I coach, you have spent money on marketing to build your cleaning business and either got very little or nothing at all in return.  Don't be fooled into thinking that means you can't afford to market your cleaning business or that advertising doesn't work at all.

If you really think about it, you will probably realize you do have the resources to market your cleaning company, you just don't have enough to waste money on things that don't work!

It costs way too much to attempt to market to every Tom Dick & Harry and we share the secret to actually get results from your marketing budget. Who to market to, what to say, where to advertise. Discover how you can have less marketing failures by making sure you speak to  your ideal customer with their ideal message and then track your results!

Feel like you have zero dollars to invest in your company? That's ok, we talk about how to grow with no marketing budget. We also discuss the fact that there is no such thing as a free lunch or free business growth. If you don't have money to put in, you will need to invest your time. 

We dive into how and why you want to build relationships (and with who), why creativity is so important and how to do it, what sort of accounts to throw your precious time and hard earned money at and more.

While we are at it here is an awesome resource from with a TON of creative cleaning advertising ideas:  CLICK HERE

We keep the party rolling and talk about how to know what your customers pain and pleasure is (HINT: they are business owners just like you) along with the idea of budgeting your time just like you (should be) budgeting your dollars. 

We lay out a simple formula...

  • Figure out exactly who your ideal prospect is 
  • Budget recurring weekly time in your calendar to connect with them
  • Come up with a super creative plan to be best friends forever with them

But wait... there's more!! Sorry... couldn't help myself... We talk about the best FREE way in the known universe to get a wall of top shelf prospects calling you every stinking month! Testimonials- referrals- references- it's a cleaning business marketing idea fiesta!!

Come for the cleaning advertising ideas and stay for my charming personality!!

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And of course- don't miss the main event-

Share YOUR cleaning advertising ideas with us now!

Jan 8, 2016

How to Market a Cleaning Company

How to market a cleaning company. Hard question. Simple answer.

What do cleaning companies do when disaster strikes? Jeff Norris of Simply Clean Janitorial has been in business since 1999.  After Hurricane Katrina, Jeff simplified his business to survive and rebuild.

Today, Jeff and Mike discuss how to market a cleaning company. Listen in and discover how you can KNOW which marketing options are best for your cleaning business. We cover some frequently asked questions about how to market a cleaning company :

  • Is SEO right for your cleaning company?
  • Should you market online or offline?
  • What message should you have on your marketing?
  • How to find out where your customers are?
  • What is the minimum online presence standard?

Mike coaches Jeff on how owners of cleaning companies can get the information they need to best attract ideal customers to their business, and reveals a super secret "ninja" trick to find out what your customers want and where they go to get it.

We also cover how to:

  • Identify wrong customers for your business
  • Disqualify them before wasting a bunch of time
  • Position yourself with the right customer

Ever miss the days of Yellow Pages? Sure they charged an arm and a leg for a tiny square in a sea of competitors but at least you were all in the same crappy overpriced boat together.

Life was simple back then... nowadays there are soooo many options- online, offline, social media (FacebookTwitter, LinkedIn) SEO, SEM, PPC- the letters and concepts go on and on...

Finally, we talk about who to trust in the online marketing world so you don't waste hundreds or thousands of your hard earned money marketing in the wrong place with the wrong message.


Jan 6, 2016

How to Bid a Commercial Cleaning Job

Once you get the job, you've got it down cold, but knowing how to bid a commercial cleaning job is a little more complex.

Here are some juicy nuggets on how to bid a commercial cleaning job

  • How to do onsite bids
  • When and how to have a budget conversation
  • What to include in a bid
  • The magic phrase to start an onsite conversation
  • How to move from unwanted sales person to valued consultant

Does the idea of going on site to give a bid to for a potentially large contract give you the heebeegeebees? You get there, excited to give a consultation to the "decision maker" and you end up being paired up with Carl from the mail room who gives you a brief tour of the office and bathrooms before rushing you out to the parking lot asking to email your bid to some junk mail email account they set up for unwanted salespeople.

Today, Mike covers 3 crucial steps you should take on every commercial cleaning job bid.

  1. Ground rules -  What they are, how to set them up your prospective client  and how they set the tone for your relationship with your customer and best of all get Carl out of the equation forever.
  2. Getting your customer's Pain - Why it's crucial to your bidding sales process
  3. What to include in your bid package

Learn a step by step process on how to get your prospective customer's real needs by asking a few simple questions and why until you can get that pain from your prospect, you can't really help them. 

Become the answer to your prospective client's problems and not just another vendor to be added to the pile when you bid a commercial cleaning job. Get higher closing percentages and less pain in the butt customers that drive you up the wall.

For more information on what to include in your bid package check out our blog on How to Market a Cleaning Business:

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Jan 4, 2016

Sick of bidding and chasing? Sick of “sharpening your pencil”? Sick of lots of bids some months and none others- no control? Think it overs?



In today's podcast we deep dive into what you can do to Get Commercial Cleaning Contracts. 



Jan 4, 2016

Today's episode is the second half of special guest Stephen Coade, founder of AMC Commercial Cleaning. 

Learn how to build a wildly successful cleaning business with experience from a 75 Million dollar commercial cleaning business. 


Jan 1, 2016

Today we are chatting with KayLynn Wessolleck from Buzy Bees Cleaning Company. Buzy Bees Cleaning Company began in May 2014 with just Kaylyn and her husband Andreas. After they were both laid off from their respective jobs and in desperate need for cash. THey came up with a name for the biz (which has changed twice since then) and their target market. THey started primarily in the residential cleaning services (private homes) but have since branched out in all kinds of areas to include: Buildings, Offices, Remote Oilfield Housing, Move-Out, Special Occasion, Vacation Rentals, Window Washing, Carpet Cleaning and even Lawn Care

Dec 30, 2015

Are you having a hard time managing, maintaining and paying for company vehicles? How about keeping your employees happy when it comes to paying for driving between accounts?

Today Mike coaches Regina from Perfection Cleaning Services  of Tampa on setting expectations around  travel and maintenance costs for employees of cleaning companies.

Today's guest is Bregina Jordan from Perfection Cleaning Services of Tampa. Bregina woke up one day  a single parent of 3 with no time to keep her house neat and tidy. Disappointed with the cleaning services she tried hiring, Bregina saw a need for a Tampa area, family owned cleaning business that cared about their clients. Perfection Cleaning Services of Tampa and a perfect podcast guest was born!

Dec 28, 2015

Ever wonder why your website isn't bringing you the customers you hoped? Mike delves into the world of google search, SEO, YouTube and customer psychology to give you insight and more importantly the solution to getting your website to actually bring you more customers. 

Dec 25, 2015

Mike spends a little time going over why your cleaning company website isn't making you any money. Learn how to transform your website into a lead generating, money making machine! 

Dec 23, 2015

Cherri Derry Berry's 2016 goal is to help 50 Hispanic  Women to start up their own Cleaning Company. Cherri has to overcome a language and logistics barrier to reach enough Hispanic Women in the Phoenix area to help them support themselves and their families with their very own Cleaning Business. Mike coaches her in how to reach those 50 women to help them to start and build their own businesses.

Dec 21, 2015

Ever wonder how someone builds an 8 million dollar a year cleaning business? Today Mike interviews Rich Lyons, owner of Pro Serve in Phoenix about how he grew his company from 0 to 300 employees and one of the top Commercial Cleaning Companies in Arizona. Rich and Mike discuss building culture in a business and how crucial it is to keeping good employees.  

Dec 18, 2015

Insider’s Circle Member Craig Kalucki talks about the transition he made from working on his business to in his business. Craig is the proud owner of Simple Clean based out of New Jersey and for years he was struggling to keep his business going and spend quality time with his family. Growth is uncomfortable, but with the tools he got from coaching with Mike, he was able to hire the right people and finally have the time and freedom to work on his business and be the husband and father he wanted to be. 

Dec 16, 2015

Cold calling is some people's worst nightmare today Mike coaches Theo Zoumboulis from Zeta Maintenance Group on how to turn "sales" on it's head and have the CUSTOMER starting the conversation. Founded in 1990, and based in Montreal Canada, Zeta Maintenance is a family owned and operated business specializing in industrial commercial cleaning.

Dec 14, 2015

Working in that sweet spot between the giants and mom and pops can be extremely rewarding, but navigating that delicate balance is tricky. Mike coaches Hank Tatro from GCS Global Cleaning Services. Hank started his business in 2011 and has been able to grow to an annual revenue of $198,000 a year

Dec 11, 2015

Employees, can't be free from your business without them, can't stay sane without good ones. Today Mike is chatting with Karen Bickford from The Cleaning Advantage. Karen has been in business for 12 years and has built The Cleaning Advantage to the 125 homes, 14 employees in that short time in lovely Bolton, MA

Dec 9, 2015

How to be a master bidder. Mike coaches Carolyn from C&S Janitorial on how to give better bids to better clients. C&S Janitorial is based in Birmingham Alabama. Carolyn started C&S Janitorial 2005. C&S cleans houses, apartments, commercial buildings, retail stores and construction clean up.  They also do floor care and carpet cleaning. C&S serves all 50 states and has over 100 employees. Their  goal is to make sure their customers our 100 percent satisfied

Dec 7, 2015

Growing your business can be tough, epically when capital is tight. Today Mike coaches Clint from Crown Jewel Cleaning. Crown Jewel specializes in health based cleaning services for commercial and residential customers. Clint has over 7 years experience in the cleaning industry and is planning on rapidly expanding his  business in order to meet the needs of his community. To Clint, cleaning is much more than just removing stains and dust – it is about preventing disease and eliminating harmful bacteria

Dec 4, 2015

Hear how to get the RIGHT employees in your business. Mike coaches Rodney from Office Pride. Office Pride is a  franchise cleaning company in Denver, Colorado specializing in buildings smaller than 100,000 sq ft. They handle all commercial cleaning needs beginning with regular janitorial and including day porters, floor and carpet care, window cleaning, post-construction cleaning, and one time special event cleaning. They have 45 clients in the Metro area and are expanding quickly in this amazing market.

Dec 2, 2015

Landing those big contracts is the focus of many owners. Today Mike coaches Josetta from Lady Luv Commercial & Residential Cleaning Service. A fairly new company that's  been around since June of 2012. Josettta’s company provides full-service commercial and residential cleaning 24 hrs a day. They offer quality service to residential industrial and commercial buildings, strip & wax floors in the state of TN. from office cleaning to construction clean-ups, their licensed contractor and expert technician are dedicated to working with you to implement a solution that meets your needs. 

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